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Should there be a marriage penalty for low and middle class families in the healthcare bill?

08 Jun

‘The built-in “marriage penalty” in both House and Senate healthcare bills has received scant attention. But for scores of low-income and middle-income couples, it could mean a hike of $2,000 or more in annual insurance premiums the moment they say “I do.”

The disparity comes about in part because subsidies for purchasing health insurance under the plan from congressional Democrats are pegged to federal poverty guidelines. That has the effect of limiting subsidies for married couples with a combined income, compared to if the individuals are single.

People who get their health insurance through an employer wouldn’t be affected. Only people that buy subsidized insurance through new exchanges set up by the legislation stand to be impacted. About 17 million people would receive such subsidies in 2016 under the House plan, the Congressional Budget Office estimates.

The bills cap the annual amount people making less than 400% of the federal poverty level must pay for health insurance premiums, ranging from 1.5% of income for the poorest to 11% at the top end, under the House plan.

For an unmarried couple with income of $25,000 each, combined premiums would be capped at $3,076 per year, under the House bill. If the couple gets married, with a combined income of $50,000, their annual premium cap jumps to $5,160 — a “penalty” of $2,084. Those figures were included in a memo prepared by House Republican staff.’

http://finance.yahoo.com/insurance/article/108540/married-couples-pay-more-than-unmarried-under-health-bill

The penalty for the same situation in the Senate bill is about $1600.

 
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Under the House bill, what would happen with my health insurance payments?

05 Jun

I make $10/hr and my wife makes about $13/hr. We both have insurance from my employer and pay about $105/month, which is well under 5% of our yearly income . If I understand the information correctly according to http://liheap.ncat.org/profiles/povertytables/FY2010/popstate.htm, our income puts us at just under 300% of the Federal Poverty Line. Based on the House bill–http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/healthreform_tri_full.pdf–we will be eligible for health care credits which will keep our premiums under 10% of our salary–which is about $400/month. Am I missing something, or could my premiums be going up 400%?

One thing this computation does not account for is the $135,000 in student loans that my wife and I must pay off. I imagine that if my monthly student loan payments were accounted for, my yearly income would be much closer to the Federal Poverty Line, and clearly I’m not going to be able to afford a quadrupling of my health insurance premiums.

I’m not asking a political question or a partisan question. I don’t need to hear simplistic “Obamacare sucks” answers. I’m not a super smart person, either, so I might be missing something obvious as I’m putting these figures together. So I’m interested in real numbers. What would I reasonably expect under the House’s health care reform bill?

Thanks.
Ha! A friend pointed out my first mistake. Deductions are $105/pay period, or $210/month. Silly, me. But still, the question of what I should expect remains.
@let me steer you:
To offset the extra expense of the Wal-Mart cashier you speak of, premiums are going to be adjusted across the board. As these adjustments are made, it is very possible that my premiums will go up to a limit of 10% of my income. Is my logic flawed? If so, please explain.

 
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Jus twondering how people really feel about some facts about the health bill, that everyone knows.?

23 May

These facts have all been discussed or commented on throughout all the media outlets. Please no bashing or comparisons–just interested in people’s opinion about the following——How was this bill, going to lower my health costs when there would be a 40% tax on my premium?————-Why does this bill state that the benefits were not start until 2014 if it is so important to get it passed now?——-If this bill is the best thing for all Americans, then why were the unions exempt from paying that 40% tax?———–If this bill is good for America, why are the politicians exempt from participating in it?———-The clause that states all people can get health insurance without pre-existing conditions, why would people buy it until they get sick or need cancer treatment or heart surgery? It is like not having to pay for homeowners insurance until the tornado struck.——- These points were well documented every where, I just wanted your take oon them–again–no bashing

 
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So the health care bill is now losing support……….?

06 May

I’m glad it’s losing support and I hope it fails…………….

Look, I’m pro-health care reform.
I really am.

but I just feel they went way out of line trying to FINE and IMPRISON people for refusing to buy health insurance.

I understand the argument, “If everyone has insurance, it will save money in the long run.”
But that still doesn’t change the principle; It should be a consumer’s right to choose.
People shouldn’t be forced against their will to purchase things.

If you compare this to auto-insurance……….
there’s a difference:
1. You only have to buy it if you DRIVE. Don’t like it? Then don’t drive.
2. You are only required to cover the car you hit, not your own car.

 
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Compared to what you pay now, what will you pay under the health reform bill?

05 May

If it passes the senate, how will it affect you? Will your premiums go up? Go down? Stay the same? Or do you not currently have insurance?

Kaiser, a non-partisan organization has the only calculator I’ve found. Here it is:

http://healthreform.kff.org/SubsidyCalculator.aspx

Personally, my premiums will go up by 3 times what I pay now.
If any of you have a link to a different or better calculator, I’d love to see it.

 
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What Will Your Insurance Premium Be If The Reform Bill Passes?

09 Apr

There is an online calculator from the Kaiser Foundation, a non-partisan research organization here:

http://healthreform.kff.org/SubsidyCalculator.aspx

I’ll go first. My current premium costs me about $200.00 a month.

If the bill passes, I’ll pay $422.00 a month.

I have a family of 4 with $60,000 yearly income.

What is your new premium?

 
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WHY does the new Obamacare bill tie insurance to your employment?? This is an out-dated idea!?

06 Apr

Government meddling in the WW2 era brought health insurance as an employee benefit. But know, people don’t keep their jobs for 30 years. Yet the Obamcare bill STILL encourages the practice of ‘employer-provided’ benefits. WHY ??? Why can’t the health care reform OUT of the benefits package, and into the hand of individuals. We worked 15 years, the place closed. 15 years of the same insurance. New job, new health plan, and another wait for ‘pre-existing’ conditions. That job lasted two years. So once again, we are insurance shopping. Compare that to our car and life insurance. We have had the same plan with the same company for 20 years, even crossing state lines. The way I read the Obamacare bill, you will still need to change companies as you move from one employer to another. And what happens if the place you work closes? Where to you get a policy? Who pays? Tying into the employment is out-dated. Why is this benefit still pushed? The government could offer employers a credit to contribute to an employees HSA account (like paying $4000 into a employees’ HSA plan, to help the employee to pay for their own premium.) Why not do this ??

*wiki- The federal government did not consider an increase in health benefits a violation of these wage controls, and in 1943 the IRS ruled that health benefits were tax exempt for workers. After the wage caps were abolished, health insurance benefits became seen as the norm and were not eliminated. For instance, by the early 1960s, General Motors was paying 100% of the healthcare bills for their employees (retirees included).*

 
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Why is the health care bill being compared to car insurance?

29 Mar

No one is forced to drive, but we are forced to buy health insurance?

 
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If Dem. health bill passes, can you afford 13% insurance premium without losing your house? car?

19 Mar

Estimates are that at minimum, the average American family (not poverty level) will pay 13% of their income. Will you be able to squeeze out 13% of your income?

http://finance.senate.gov/press/Bpress/2009press/prb091609.pdf

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/16/baucus-releases-bipartisan-proposal/

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1924252,00.html

 
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What’s a good defense for the opposition of the health care bill, when libs compare it to car insurance?

10 Mar
 
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10/12/09 Baucus Bill Will Increase Insurance Premiums $4000/yr/family

25 Oct


Baucus Bill will increase insurance premiums $4000/yr/family according to PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP.

I’m tired of people that condemn Fox because they feel that the media should have 100% bias to…

 

Auto Insurance : How To Lower Your Car Insurance Bill

05 Oct


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