Well because in many states you are FORCED to buy car insurance. Thanks to the new bill we will soon be FORCED to buy Government health care. That’s why they make this comparison
TruthSeeker818
April 11, 2010 at 10:16 am
They are not similar….If you dont have a car you dont need car inssurance, but everyone will be required to buy health insurance, regardless.
The government doesnt have a say in car insurance, if you are a liability the insurance company can drop you. If you are a liability health wise the health insurance company cant drop you.The government can determine what treatments you can and cant receive and how long you will be treated for…government doesnt have a hand in car insurance
rwb13
April 11, 2010 at 11:08 am
beats me, they aren’t similar and it’s not a sound argument. they hear the word insurance and think well i have to have car ins. so there is no difference. they don’t realize they aren’t mandated to buy a car. as of yet, that is.
Con-Smack 2010
April 11, 2010 at 11:50 am
Not sure what the confusion is about. My state makes you buy car insurance. Isnt that “socialist” and “Big government” according to the neo-cons? Where’s the outrage?
Ignorance
April 11, 2010 at 11:51 am
If you have a car and depending where you live then chances are you were forced into buying car insurance. I can’t believe BASIC health is an issue here.
George Mason - Patriot
April 11, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. A people free to choose will always choose peace. Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for almost all the economic growth in the United States. Facts are stubborn things. Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is adknowledged. Government always finds a need for whatever money it gets. Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves. Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other. Government’s first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them. History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap. How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin. I favor the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and it must be enforced at gunpoint if necessary. I have wondered at times what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the US Congress. I’ve never been able to understand why a Republican contributor is a ‘fat cat’ and a Democratic contributor of the same amount of money is a ‘public-spirited philanthropist’. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall! My fellow Americans, I am pleased to tell you I just signed legislation which outlaws Russia forever. The bombing begins in five minutes. No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, agovernment bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth! No mother would ever willingly sacrifice her sons for territorial gain, for economic advantage, for ideology. One picture is worth a 1,000 denials. One way to make sure crime doesn’t pay would be to let the government run it. People do not make wars; governments do. Recession is when a neighbor loses his job. Depression is when you lose yours. Status quo, you know, is Latin for ‘the mess we’re in’. The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help. The problem is not that people are taxed too little, the problem is that government spends too much.
Simon
April 11, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I think it is a shallow argument. However, they are similar in that they are both called insurance.
Demos & Repubs = Anti-Liberty
April 11, 2010 at 1:06 pm
They’re banking on the majority of people being ignorant of the differences.
Driving is a privilege and you have to have a minimum amount of liability coverage in case you injure OTHER people. You have the option of not purchasing it by using other modes of transportation.
This healthcare mandate is entirely different in that it is forcing you to purchase a product for yourself simply because you are alive and living in the United States.
Kevin
April 11, 2010 at 1:09 pm
because the government forced everyone to buy car insurance saying it would be good for us because everyone had it so all wrecks are covered, which isnt true, plus they said rates would go way down because again everyone has it. Now look at car insurance rates? have they went down or up?
more than tripled
Chupate esa!
April 11, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Because there is a mandate, although you do not need to drive a car if you don’t want to, you will need health care at some point…
John
April 11, 2010 at 1:11 pm
You are forced to buy car insurance so that when crash into someone there will be financial resources to compensate that person, even if you have little or no money.
Having health insurance will insure that when you get sick and are taken to the emergency room, the cost of your treatment will not be shifted to other people with insurance, or to the taxpayer, when you have no assets to pay for care out of pocket.
Heather
April 11, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Because they think people are stupid enough to buy that fallacious argument.
Driving is voluntary. You have a right to exist, but this health care plan MANDATES that you buy insurance just for the privilege of existing.
cattledog
April 11, 2010 at 2:25 pm
It is similair in the sense that auto insurance was mandatory because the expenses of car ownership and the possible expenses from crashing a car or other cars can often create a impossible situation to compensate anyone involved. It creats a unfair burden especially on the driver who is not at fault…. the lack of healthcare insurance often creates a impossible situation to pay the hospital for services causing the hospital to have to raise fees for services to people that have the means or the insurance to pay those fees. The raising fees has historically caused higher insurance premiums (and deductibles) and property taxes for home owners in counties where uninsured patients are taken by their hospitals.
Is it a good argument? You decide… I can see this argument although many will say that you don’t have to own a car. I can see that side too… Of course, most of us do not live in large cities with extensive public transportation. I mean who doesn’t own a car or wants one?
Stefan W
April 11, 2010 at 3:18 pm
One thing that many fail to recognise is that insurance companies are companies too, just like McDonald’s or Best Buy. They all sell goods and service to people who are willing to buy in. Car insurance companies are more hesitant to give insurance to a more risky aggressive driver, as they should be. After all, whatever you do wrong in the car, they have to pay for. They can’t know what their costs are going to be like McDonald’s burger or a TV at Best Buy. They can’t know if someone with a perfect driving record will cause a catastrophic accident costing them thousands of dollars.
What makes this debate more touchy is that it is about people’s health. I agree, people shouldn’t be denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions but look at it from a health insurance company’s perspective… You are asking them to pay out more than what they take in for a certain patient. Keeping in mind that they too are still a business, where is their incentive?
In car insurance companies, its obvious that there is not incentive for them to insure a bad driver. The idea of people’s health clouds that idea.
When you shop for car insurance, you look for the best rate for your coverage. Those companies compete because they want your business and they give you a rate that won’t put them out of business. If you require them to cover people for less than they are costing and spread that over alot of people, they’ll go bankrupt. Meanwhile, while they are competing for your business, they are lowering their rates to get you to buy their insurances plans and not someone else’s.
Really, the comparison can be made to any company since they all function generally the same, providing services for money. Car insurance has the smallest gap to health insurance (in a business sense) since it is also insurance and it is obvious to see the absurdity in what a similar overhaul of that industry would do.
Vampire Killer
April 11, 2010 at 9:58 am
Well because in many states you are FORCED to buy car insurance. Thanks to the new bill we will soon be FORCED to buy Government health care. That’s why they make this comparison
TruthSeeker818
April 11, 2010 at 10:16 am
They are not similar….If you dont have a car you dont need car inssurance, but everyone will be required to buy health insurance, regardless.
The government doesnt have a say in car insurance, if you are a liability the insurance company can drop you. If you are a liability health wise the health insurance company cant drop you.The government can determine what treatments you can and cant receive and how long you will be treated for…government doesnt have a hand in car insurance
rwb13
April 11, 2010 at 11:08 am
beats me, they aren’t similar and it’s not a sound argument. they hear the word insurance and think well i have to have car ins. so there is no difference. they don’t realize they aren’t mandated to buy a car. as of yet, that is.
Con-Smack 2010
April 11, 2010 at 11:50 am
Not sure what the confusion is about. My state makes you buy car insurance. Isnt that “socialist” and “Big government” according to the neo-cons? Where’s the outrage?
Ignorance
April 11, 2010 at 11:51 am
If you have a car and depending where you live then chances are you were forced into buying car insurance. I can’t believe BASIC health is an issue here.
George Mason - Patriot
April 11, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. A people free to choose will always choose peace. Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for almost all the economic growth in the United States. Facts are stubborn things. Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is adknowledged. Government always finds a need for whatever money it gets. Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves. Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other. Government’s first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them. History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap. How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin. I favor the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and it must be enforced at gunpoint if necessary. I have wondered at times what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the US Congress. I’ve never been able to understand why a Republican contributor is a ‘fat cat’ and a Democratic contributor of the same amount of money is a ‘public-spirited philanthropist’. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall! My fellow Americans, I am pleased to tell you I just signed legislation which outlaws Russia forever. The bombing begins in five minutes. No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, agovernment bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth! No mother would ever willingly sacrifice her sons for territorial gain, for economic advantage, for ideology. One picture is worth a 1,000 denials. One way to make sure crime doesn’t pay would be to let the government run it. People do not make wars; governments do. Recession is when a neighbor loses his job. Depression is when you lose yours. Status quo, you know, is Latin for ‘the mess we’re in’. The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help. The problem is not that people are taxed too little, the problem is that government spends too much.
Simon
April 11, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I think it is a shallow argument. However, they are similar in that they are both called insurance.
Demos & Repubs = Anti-Liberty
April 11, 2010 at 1:06 pm
They’re banking on the majority of people being ignorant of the differences.
Driving is a privilege and you have to have a minimum amount of liability coverage in case you injure OTHER people. You have the option of not purchasing it by using other modes of transportation.
This healthcare mandate is entirely different in that it is forcing you to purchase a product for yourself simply because you are alive and living in the United States.
Kevin
April 11, 2010 at 1:09 pm
because the government forced everyone to buy car insurance saying it would be good for us because everyone had it so all wrecks are covered, which isnt true, plus they said rates would go way down because again everyone has it. Now look at car insurance rates? have they went down or up?
more than tripled
Chupate esa!
April 11, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Because there is a mandate, although you do not need to drive a car if you don’t want to, you will need health care at some point…
John
April 11, 2010 at 1:11 pm
You are forced to buy car insurance so that when crash into someone there will be financial resources to compensate that person, even if you have little or no money.
Having health insurance will insure that when you get sick and are taken to the emergency room, the cost of your treatment will not be shifted to other people with insurance, or to the taxpayer, when you have no assets to pay for care out of pocket.
Heather
April 11, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Because they think people are stupid enough to buy that fallacious argument.
Driving is voluntary. You have a right to exist, but this health care plan MANDATES that you buy insurance just for the privilege of existing.
cattledog
April 11, 2010 at 2:25 pm
It is similair in the sense that auto insurance was mandatory because the expenses of car ownership and the possible expenses from crashing a car or other cars can often create a impossible situation to compensate anyone involved. It creats a unfair burden especially on the driver who is not at fault…. the lack of healthcare insurance often creates a impossible situation to pay the hospital for services causing the hospital to have to raise fees for services to people that have the means or the insurance to pay those fees. The raising fees has historically caused higher insurance premiums (and deductibles) and property taxes for home owners in counties where uninsured patients are taken by their hospitals.
Is it a good argument? You decide… I can see this argument although many will say that you don’t have to own a car. I can see that side too… Of course, most of us do not live in large cities with extensive public transportation. I mean who doesn’t own a car or wants one?
Stefan W
April 11, 2010 at 3:18 pm
One thing that many fail to recognise is that insurance companies are companies too, just like McDonald’s or Best Buy. They all sell goods and service to people who are willing to buy in. Car insurance companies are more hesitant to give insurance to a more risky aggressive driver, as they should be. After all, whatever you do wrong in the car, they have to pay for. They can’t know what their costs are going to be like McDonald’s burger or a TV at Best Buy. They can’t know if someone with a perfect driving record will cause a catastrophic accident costing them thousands of dollars.
What makes this debate more touchy is that it is about people’s health. I agree, people shouldn’t be denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions but look at it from a health insurance company’s perspective… You are asking them to pay out more than what they take in for a certain patient. Keeping in mind that they too are still a business, where is their incentive?
In car insurance companies, its obvious that there is not incentive for them to insure a bad driver. The idea of people’s health clouds that idea.
When you shop for car insurance, you look for the best rate for your coverage. Those companies compete because they want your business and they give you a rate that won’t put them out of business. If you require them to cover people for less than they are costing and spread that over alot of people, they’ll go bankrupt. Meanwhile, while they are competing for your business, they are lowering their rates to get you to buy their insurances plans and not someone else’s.
Really, the comparison can be made to any company since they all function generally the same, providing services for money. Car insurance has the smallest gap to health insurance (in a business sense) since it is also insurance and it is obvious to see the absurdity in what a similar overhaul of that industry would do.